THE PALLILOG
Let’s address “that” Astros-Yankees trade proposal and what it really looks like
Nov 16, 2023, 5:24 pm
THE PALLILOG
With Major League Baseball’s Winter Meetings less than three weeks away, we are at the time of the baseball year when rumors become grossly overpriced at a dime per dozen. It’s also a time for thinking aloud and “what if” scenarios. Hence a suggestion this week out of New York that the Astros could or should trade Kyle Tucker with him being two years away from free agent eligibility. Tucker would be a great addition to the Yankees’ lineup. Yeah, and? Tucker was the Astros’ best player in 2023. Best until the postseason that is, in which Tucker stunk like rotten eggs batting .150 with a sub-.520 OPS and one run batted in in eleven games. If the Astros HAD to trade away Tucker or Yordan Alvarez, in a fan vote trade, Tuck would presumably be the goner in a landslide. There’s a reasonable case in such a scenario that Yordan should be the man to move. And trading Alvarez would be RIDICULOUS.
Kyle Tucker turns 27 in January, Yordan Alvarez turns 27 in June. While Yordan is the obviously better hitter, Tucker is clearly the better outfielder and baserunner. Attendance is also part of the grade. Over the last two seasons Tucker has missed a total of 17 games, Alvarez has missed 75. In 2024 Alvarez enters the second season of the six year 115 million dollar contract extension he signed in June 2022. That averages about 19.2 million dollars per season, expiring when Alvarez will be 31 years old. Yordan took the generational wealth when he was still three seasons from free agency. Tucker is two seasons away, meaning he can hit the open market when about to turn 29. Unless Tucker’s postseason debacle has lingering performance effects, barring injury a 29-year-old Tucker would command at least a five-year contract. Heck, last offseason players 29 and older like Trea Turner and Xander Bogaerts laughably got 11-year deals. So, Jim Crane should be willing to do seven years, which would equal the longest obligation into which the Astros have ever entered.
When Jose Altuve signed his extension during spring training 2018 it locked him in for seven seasons. If Altuve doesn’t get another extension done this offseason he can become a free agent heading into his age 35 season. Seven years for Tucker starting now would have him free before his age 34 season. The Astros have no outfielder in their farm system likely to become close to the player that Tucker is. Unless the Astros had an immediate quality pivot ready to go (signing Cody Bellinger would qualify but he’d cost way more than Tucker will cost the next two seasons), trading Tucker for prospects would do serious damage to their 2024 changes. If Tucker scoffs at seven years 150-175 million (that's over 21.4 to an even 25 mil per) and Crane opts to go no longer, so be it. If the Astros are contending, just play out the next two seasons.
Now, if you want to talk about entertaining offers for Framber Valdez…
It may feel like way longer, but we only have to go back to 2019 to find the last time the Astros, Texans, and Rockets were all good concurrently. The 2019 Astros won more regular season games than either of their World Series winning teams, though lost the ’19 World Series to the Washington Nationals. The 2019 Texans won the AFC South, had a dramatic come from behind playoff win over the Bills, then led at Kansas City 24-0 in the second quarter before pulling off one of the biggest in-game collapses ever. The 2019-2020 Rockets were slipping but still good before getting blown out of the “bubble” in the second round of the playoffs.
Since then the Astros have maintained excellence while until less than two months ago the Texans and Rockets were dueling dumpster fires. In recent years the Astros could have been bad and still been vastly better than their local brethren. The winds of change are blowing. The time is coming when the Texans will have a better NFL team than the Astros have an MLB team. The same can be said of the Rockets as an NBA team relative to the Astros. With the Texans seemingly have hit the Daily Double with the DeMeco Ryans/C.J Stroud combo and the Rockets having much upgraded their talent and hired a legitimate head coach, it’s possible that the Astros’ stranglehold on being best of the “Big Three” in town slips sooner than later.
The Astros have no intention of seeing that happen unless it means the Texans are playing in a Super Bowl and/or the Rockets reach the NBA Finals. Despite the Astros winning only 90 games in 2023 and seeing the Texas Rangers seize the World Series title, they did come within one victory of a fifth Fall Classic appearance in seven years. Still, they obviously slipped a couple of notches from the standard set 2017-2022. A solid core remains but missing the playoffs in 2024 is a clear possibility. So how do the Astros thread the needle of staying in the championship mix presently while also building up their callow farm system to give them a bright future? And doing so without the roster becoming prohibitively expensive. Prohibitively as determined by Jim Crane. There is no salary cap in MLB, the competitive balance tax is not harsh for teams within 20 million dollars of the tax threshold, and the Astros minted money in 2023.
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Framber Valdez pitched seven strong innings and Jeremy Peña homered and drove in four runs as the Houston Astros defeated the Milwaukee Brewers 9-1 on Wednesday.
Houston earned just its second victory in seven games to snap Milwaukee’s three-game winning streak and leave both teams with .500 records. The Brewers were attempting to sweep a series from the Astros for the first time since 2012.
The Astros led 3-1 before Peña broke the game open by delivering a three-run homer to left off reliever Elvin Rodriguez with two outs in the sixth inning.
JP3-run bomb. #BuiltForThis pic.twitter.com/En0XXWdlt0
— Houston Astros (@astros) May 7, 2025
Valdez (2-4) struck out seven while allowing three hits, two walks and one run to earn his first win since the Astros’ March 27 season opener. He threw a season-high 101 pitches.
The Framchise is all business.#BuiltForThis pic.twitter.com/J8EGGDk5gl
— Houston Astros (@astros) May 7, 2025
Milwaukee’s only run off Valdez came on Eric Haase’s fifth-inning homer, a 425-foot drive to center.
The Astros took a 1-0 lead off Quinn Priester (1-1) in the second inning as Jake Meyers hit a two-out single and scored on Zach Dezenzo’s double.
RBI double for Zach gets us on the board early! #BuiltForThis pic.twitter.com/AilCY27A9d
— Houston Astros (@astros) May 7, 2025
The Brewers have lost all 13 games this season in which their opponent scored first.
Five-time All-Star closer Josh Hader worked the ninth while pitching in Milwaukee for the first time since the Brewers traded him in 2022.
The Astros led 1-0 and had runners on third and second with one out in the fifth when Peña hit a bouncer to third.
Safe all day. #BuiltForThis pic.twitter.com/OVjcvev7cM
— Houston Astros (@astros) May 7, 2025
The throw home beat Dezenzo to the plate. Home plate umpire Chris Conroy initially ruled Dezenzo out, but the Astros challenged the call and replays showed the runner slid home ahead of Haase’s tag.
Valdez has now pitched at least seven innings an MLB-leading 57 times since 2020.
The Astros host the Cincinnati Reds on Friday. Scheduled pitchers are right-hander Hunter Brown (5-1, 1.67) for the Astros and right-hander Nick Martinez (1-3, 4.19) for the Reds.
The Brewers visit the Tampa Bay Ray on Friday. Left-hander José Quintana (4-1, 2.83) will pitch for the Brewers.